Well, I don't know if it was ANDthenthEReSphysics, but who ever the moderator was, he just wouldn't let this slip by:
I included Cwon14's quote because of how well it expresses the outrage a lot of people feel about the field. It is really unfortunate that this debate no longer appears to be available on the web. It exposes Trenberth as an example of science politization at its worst. I'm absolutely unsurprised that he signed the RICO letter. It looks like the chickens may be coming home to roost on that one.BBD:"The politics comes in when right wingers make politically-motivated attacks on the science because they don’t like the policy implications. "
[Update: 8 hours later I see my previous 2 comments are canned. More in a later postThere's some truth in that, but there is also some truth in a sort of correlary [sic]that left wingers defend "The Science" because they like the policy implications. In fact they might even make politically-motivated attacks on science that refutes some of "The Science", such as papers by "McIntyre and McKitrick" or "lewis and Curry" or blog posts that show how incompetent and ethically challenged Stefan Lewandowsky and John Cook are.